Every gun show I attended, (not military), still had about 15 tables full of WW2 German & Japanese items & at a very reasonable price compared to today. “I also question whether or not the 7mm actually needed a locked breech action.” Japanese Baby Nambu Pistol Description: Baby Nambu, caliber 7mm Nambu, barrel 3.27 inches, holds 7 cartridges. Buyer’s Premium: All bid prices “hammer prices” (means the price at which a lot is knocked down to the purchaser) will be subject to a buyer’s premium payable by the purchaser of 19.5% of the bid price. The locked breech action would have made it possible. Commentdocument.getElementById("comment").setAttribute( "id", "a4ef9d4aea3a4f8f40e0ece4fa2b8304" );document.getElementById("d9497dd808").setAttribute( "id", "comment" ); Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. The Baby Nambu shows its original blue finish and has some areas of brown patina. A first prototype locked-breech, recoil-operated pistol chambered in an 8 mm cartridge came about in 1902, often referr… Quite long – in 1929 it must be obvious that locking system for such cartridge is unnecessary and make it expensive. I’d love to have a original or any Nambu for that matter. LSB#: 150624CM06 Make: Tokyo Arsenal in Koishikawa Model: The official Japanese model for this pistol was Type Nambu, but it has been referred to as the Baby Nambu by the West for years. Koishikawa Arsenal Baby Nambu chambered for the diminutive 7mm Nambu cartridge. The following factors may prevent the notifications from being sent on time or at all: Copyright 1996 - 2021 © iCollector.com Online Auctions. bullet fully penetrated 4 pine planks and stay clogged in 5th. You can choose to be notified via SMS Text message and/or Email via the subscription settings page in your account. Ballistically the 7mm Nambu (left) is comparable to the .32ACP Subscribing to the Lot Closing Notification for an item will trigger our system to notify you about 5-10 minutes before the bidding closes. Arsenal marked on top of chamber. This this case), but rather in front of the date on the lower part of the frame (the Because there is so much stuff, I have broken this page into parts so you can load and view it bit by bit. The Type 11 uses a distinctive hopper feed, and […], While in the Smithsonian gun room, I noticed a semi auto Japanese rifle of a type I have not seen reference to before. Rare, well-kept examples of the early Nambus command well into four figures, perhaps into five for a 100-percent Grandpa Nambu, especially if it has factory accessories like a detachable shoulder stock with matching serial numbers and matched magazines. The top of the chamber area bears the four intertwined cannon balls of the Tokyo Arsenal, and the right side of the receiver has the Japanese Kanji markings over the serial number "3871". Get daily email alerts when new items become available that contain the following category and keywords. It was over 45 years ago, but as I recall they were consecutive serial numbers. The magazine has a nickel-plated body with an aluminum base. powder charge: 0,16 g nitrocellulose Bill Ruger thought enough of this little pistol to make two copies of it in 22lr to bad he decided not to market it. It bears all matching serial numbers, and while there is some wear, it is in very good condition for an eighty-nine year old pistol. Additionally .12 caliber “Kruger 98” of shape very similar to Pistole 08: http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2005/10/another-12-caliber-airgun/ Welcome to the New Lot Closing Notification Feature. By bidding at our auction whether in person or by agent, sealed bid, telephone bid or other means, the buyer or bidder agrees that the contract created by these conditions of sale is made and performed in the County of Rock Island, State of Illinois and further agrees that should any dispute arise from this contract the jurisdiction for contractual disputes is Rock Island County. Was that a possibility? from the left is (the four in kanji). This pistol is all matched serial numbers including the one original magazine. These pistols were intended as private purchase sidearms by high raking officers in the Army and Navy. I have my own custom Lee 6 cavity mould for a 55gr bullet in linotype matching the original very closely in shape, and have made my own cases out of M1 Carbine brass. Barnes (Cartridges of the World) states 56 grains at 1250 for 196 FPE. Kojiro Nambu, one of Japan’s most prolific arms designers, developed the Type 11 light machine gun as an adaptation of his previous Type 3 HMG design. “That would most certainly penetrate a dinner table” “(…)“Ruger” and “Luger”(…)” - Nambu Factory - Markings on the left side of the pistol The markings of the Nambu Type 14 pistol (II) - Producers and "Showa" era markings - The serial number on the Nambu Type 14 parts Serial numbers of the Nambu Type 14 by year - Chigusa factory at Nagoya Arsenal - Nambu factory under Nagoya Arsenal control Small guard. Never been re-finished so the original factory ...Click for more info They did do that with the 8mm Nambu (thus the different numbers), albeit for a lesser extent, so it could very well be that they did it with the 7mm Nambu as well. TGE … The Nambu Automatic Pistol Type B, or “Baby Nambu” as it is known in US collecting circles, is a scaled-down companion to the 1902 “Grandpa” Nambu pistol.It was intended as a private purchase option for officers who needed to carry a sidearm, but did not want or need a full size service pistol. this is more powerful than .25 Auto (3,2 g @ 228 m/s – data for TK pistol), YIKES! The grips are finely checkered hardwood. The pistol's serial number is 2993. All externally observed numbers are matching with matching magazine. The top of the chamber area bears the four intertwined cannon balls of the Tokyo arsenal and the right side of the receiver has the Japanese Kanji markings over the serial number "500". At the announcement of “SOLD”, the highest bidder will have purchased the offered lot. All serial numbers match. Ruger and Alexander McCormick Sturm in 1949 in a small rented machine shop in Southport, Connecticut. bullet mass: 3,65 g Serial Number: 1115 Year of Manufacture: There were about 6500 of these guns produced between 1909 and 1930, so we suspect this gun was made around 1913 and … A couple of books to look for information are Axis Pistols by Jan C. Still ,and Hand Cannons of Imperial Japan, by Harry Derby. The Ruger is probably more reliable (allowing for the chronic problem of feeding the rimmed .22 round from any kind of box magazine),and as involved as its stripping procedure is, it’s still simpler than that of any of Nambu’s pistol designs. The premium is added to your successful bid and the two together equal the total purchase price. “manufactured between 1903 and 1929” Payment Information: Auction sales are strictly for cash, cashier’s check or checks (with prior approval of the management), MasterCard, Visa or Discover. It is complete with 10 rounds of original WWII Japanese 7mm Nambu ammo. 3-1/4" barrel with dovetail front sight and V-notch rear sight. EVALUATION OF A JAPANESE NAMBU TYPE “A” PISTOL MODEL OF 1902 The Nambu Type “A” Pistol in 8x22mm was introduced in 1902. http://www.hungariae.com/RothSau.htm - The serial number on the Nambu Type 14 parts Serial numbers of the Nambu Type 14 by year - Chigusa factory at Nagoya Arsenal - Nambu factory under Nagoya Arsenal control - Toriimatsu factory of Nagoya Arsenal - 1st series - Toriimatsu factory of Nagoya Arsenal - 2nd series - Koishikawa/Kokura Arsenals distance 10 (шаг, 1 шаг = 71,12 cm) NOTE TO ALL BUYERS: Method of payment will be U.S. currency or certified check drawn on an American bank. Despite its small size and light cartridge, the Baby Nambu copied the complete locking system of the larger Nambu, resulting in a quite expensive pistol. World: Showa 12.7 Kokubunji Type 14 Pistol, Nambu Papa Nambus are mostly … The Nambu Automatic Pistol Type B, or “Baby Nambu” as it is known in US collecting circles, is a scaled-down companion to the 1902 “Grandpa” Nambu pistol. Most of these were made by the Tokyo Army Arsenal, although production did move to the TG&E company in about 1923 (presumably after the great Tokyo earthquake).” gives it 1050 and 137 FPE. confusion among collectors. There were approximately 6,000 produced, with this pistol being produced very early as it is numbered "435". 1. We have a top example of the legendary and highly sought after Small Type Nambu Pistol, commonly called the “Baby Nambu”. The matching serial numbers are also visible on the underside of the bolt, the back side of the cocking knob, the back of the magazine, and on the inside of each grip panel. Nambu Type 14. springs and a replacement firing pin. Serial numbers all matching except same period magazine. This Nambu was produced around 1915. was advertised in 1950s. The highest serial number known to exist of Nagoya arsenal, Toriimatsu factory produced Type 14 pistols is 73291 and has a date of Showa 20.8 or August of 1945. I didn’t. Any notices, posted or oral during the sale, are also part of our condition of sale agreement. Description of 7mm Nambu cartridge in municion: Of the two, I’d rather have the Ruger, and not just because of the caliber. “Baby” Nambu is Nambu’s answer to FN Browning M1900. Serial numbers on this run of guns go from around 7800 to 99999. Enjoy what you read on Forgotten Weapons? This is a fairly major difference (unlike, say, the differences in 8mm Nambu ballistics in different sources), so either some of the numbers must be wrong or the Japanese significantly improved the loading during production. Serial Number: 6346. ²Jakob H. Brandt: Handbuch der Pistolen- und Revolverpatronen = Manual of Pistol and Revolver Cartridges. There were several different makes and models that they could choose from. This baby nambu #613 is listed in Derby and Brown's book, at Appendix H which lists the known "baby" serial numbers (with comments about some of them), at page 378, as a NAVY MARKED baby nambu, apparently the only one known (at least the only one so identified in that book). right are ju-yon-nen-shiki, or gten-four-year-type h, i.e. - The serial number on the Nambu Type 14 parts Serial numbers of the Nambu Type 14 by year - Chigusa factory at Nagoya Arsenal - Nambu factory under Nagoya Arsenal control - Toriimatsu factory of Nagoya Arsenal - 1st series - Toriimatsu factory of Nagoya Arsenal - 2nd series - Koishikawa/Kokura Arsenals IIRC, Gun Digest for 1963 had an article about loading the 7mm Nambu. When serial number 2400+- was reached, improvements were made in the pistol. While the 8mm was more like the .38 Special revolver round in typical factory loadings of the day. As noted above, the first row has the Nagoya Arsenal and Nambu logos followed by the serial number (37614). Pete. Data for TK (6,35mm) automatic pistol: This pistol was manufactured at the Tokyo Artillery Arsenal in Koishikawa, Tokyo between 1903 and 1928. I’m not so sure the 7mm round would be defined as being no more powerful than a .25 ACP. The series had five variants, the Type A Model 1902 (also called the Grandpa Nambu), the Type A Model 1902 Modified (also known as the Papa Nambu), the Type B (also known as the Baby Nambu), the Type 14 (南部十四年式自動拳銃) and the Type 94. Each plank thickness is 17 mm, space between each planks is 7 mm. Back in the early 60’s a friend that worked in a gun shop tried to get me to but a pair of Nambu pistols. Japanese Nambu Type 14 1925 serial # 59483 8 m/m Nambu 4 ½â€ bbl with a lightly frosted bore. WW2 JAPANESE NAMBU TYPE 14 8X22 TOKYO KOKURA ARSENAL SEMI-AUTO PISTOL, CIRCA 1935. By comparison, they give the statistics for the 8 x 21mm Nambu as; If you believe Barnes, the 7 x 19.7mm and 8 x 21mm rounds were roughly equivalent to each other in power, and both were in the same power class as the 9 x 20SR Browning (9mm Browning Long). As a result, demand was slim, and only 6500 were manufactured between 1903 and 1929, when production ended. One was a Baby, the other was a Papa. This pistol has a high quality rust blue finish and straw colored trigger, magazine release, sear pivot pin and bolt lock with a bright finished bolt. Enter your email address to receive notifications of new posts by email. Soon the young Nambu would be promoted to major and tasked with developing a semi-automatic pistol for the Japanese military. Condition: Blue 95%+, golden straw color heat-treated parts, light freckling overall, small bit of holster wear on front corner of recoil spring tube. This purchase is subject to all the terms and conditions set forth herein. The purchaser's rights and our respective rights and obligations hereunder are governed by Illinois law. Baby Nambu's could be had all day long for under $1000, Papa Naval complete rigs with leather & all ran about $700, SA Daggers, mint for about $250, lesser ones $150. In 1897 a 28-year-old lieutenant of the artillery in the Japanese Imperial Armyone Kijirõ Nambuhad been assigned to work with noted Japanese firearms designer Nariakira Arisaka on what was to become the Type 30 rifle. This pistol is chambered for the 7 M/M Nambu cartridge. It was intended as a private purchase option for officers who needed to carry a sidearm, but did not want or need a full size service pistol. The baby Nambu, the Colt Pocket Hammerless Automatic, and the 1910/ In 98% very crisp condition, and the nicest documented example that I have seen in a long long time, this is completely matching to include one factory original numbered magazine. I thought at the time that they were too ugly to buy. gives: p. 276. Small-caliber automatic pistols for officers was not only used in Japan, for example in Germany die Schmeisserpistole firing .25 Auto cartridge were used: http://unblinkingeye.com/Guns/HS25/hs25.html. The purchaser further agrees to pay the purchase price, buyer’s premium and any applicable taxes before any lot may be transferred. “7mm Nambu cartridge (roughly on par with .25ACP)” Smith (Small Arms of the World, 11th ed.) I also question whether or not the 7mm actually needed a locked breech action. Most of these were made by the Tokyo Army Arsenal, although production did move to the TG&E company in about 1923 (presumably after the great Tokyo earthquake). muzzle velocity: 240 m/s Notice that both FN Browning 1900 and “Baby” Nambu shares similar overall length (~170 mm) and mass unloaded (FN: 625 g, Nambu: 650 g) and identical capacity (7). Field dismounting of the Nambu Type 14 Advanced dismounting of the Nambu Type 14 - Dismounting of the extractor - Dismounting of the sear - Dismounting of the safety lever - Re-assembly tip - Dismounting of the magazine safety - Remaining parts - Parts legend - early model - Parts legend - later model Functioning of the Nambu Type 14 (I) - The 8mm Nambu … © 2020 Forgotten Weapons.Site developed by Cardinal Acres Web Development. Manufacturer: TGE. This Pistol is fully rigged out with the holster and … - Nambu Factory - Markings on the left side of the pistol The markings of the Nambu Type 14 pistol (II) - Producers and "Showa" era markings - The serial number on the Nambu Type 14 parts Serial numbers of the Nambu Type 14 by year - Chigusa factory at Nagoya Arsenal - Nambu factory under Nagoya Arsenal control Approximately 5,900 examples of the finely finished, compact, "Baby" Nambu pistol were manufactured before production ceased. He thought that this made them unique and highly desirable. Era: Pre WWI, WWI, Pre WWII. It is definitely Japanese, judging from elements like the split buttstock and […], If you are looking for gun info today, you really deserve to have something more elaborate than what I am able to write while on the road visiting family. Country of Origin: Japan Nambu become aware of FN automatic pistol commercial success, so chose to react, but he was unable to examine example of FN Browning M1900 and what he have was ballistic data for .32 Auto and data like dimensions (length,width,height) and mass The holster is also made at the Tokyo Arsenal. The best one can do is estimate based on whether the serial number is early or late in the known range. The "Baby" Nambu is perhaps the most desirable Japanese semi-automatic pistol. Back in the early 60’s a friend that was working in a sporting goods store tried to get me to buy a pair of Nambu pistols. All sales are final at the fall of the Auctioneer's hammer. All items purchased by absentee bidders must be paid for in full immediately upon notification. This is a fantastic ‘Baby Nambu’ made by the Tokyo Artillery Arsenal in Koishikawa, Tokyo. All parts are labeled with matching serial number beside the magazine which is only one number off at 548 and the firing pin is unmarked. It was produced in 1930 at the Tokyo Arsenal. Want to receive updates about upcoming auctions? Caliber: 7mm Nambu. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. But I would say an officer armed with one was packing at least the equivalent of a .32 ACP, not a .25. ¹ Miller, David (2007). DWM Police Luger 9mm caliber pistol. This is a very nice example of a very early, three digit serial number Japanese "Baby Nambu" pistol as manufactured by the Tokyo Koishigawa arsenal. Please consider, Type 2 Paratrooper Arisaka at Nambu World, http://unblinkingeye.com/Guns/HS25/hs25.html, http://www.nambuworld.com/originalcollectibleammo.htm, http://papkin1.livejournal.com/106077.html, http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2005/10/another-12-caliber-airgun/. The gun is serial number 549 making it one of the earlier manufactured examples of Nambu pistols. This is an excellent all matching Baby nambu pistol that includes two matching magazines, and an original Baby Nambu Holster. This is a very fine example of an early production Japanese "Baby Nambu" pistol that is complete with its original matching magazine. The matching serial numbers are also visible on the underside of the bolt, the back side of the cocking knob, the back of the magazine, and on the inside of each grip panel. Its not exact info like the monthly and yearly date as the type 14s and type 94s its based on research done by the authors and others. Please contact the auction house for the preferred shipper’s contact information. ISBN 0-8117-0277-4. These are the conditions of the sale. The gun has the three Japanese Kanji characters over top the serial number as well as the intertwined cannon ball proof on the top of the frame. All items purchased by successful bidders must be paid for in full the day of sale. (Hi Teri.). However, we should keep in mind that it was earlier than .25 Auto and in early days of automatic pistols no-one was sure right way, hence locking system might be understood. I suppose that if the bullet penetrated the victim’s skull the brain would be reduced to a jelly! Stackpole Books. http://www.municion.org/7mm/7mmNambu.htm The Premiere Firearms Auction of the Year. It fired own 7.65 mm cartridge weaker that .32 Auto (7,65 Browning). if I understand correctly: 6000 pistols were made by Tokyo Arsenal and 550 by Tokyo Gas and Electric. The magazine is a correct style and type for 1931.... Read more about "Small Trigger Japanese Type 14 Nambu"... Japanese Type 14 Nambu Pistol 1943 Production This Nambu was produced in the 9th month of 1943. Here are the typical markings in an “original series” pistol made by the Kokubunji factory of Nambu/Chuo Kogyo under the supervision of the Nagoya arsenal. People just think of it as more like the P.08 Parabellum because of the similarities between the designers’ names; “Ruger” and “Luger”. Just prior to their partnership, Bill Ruger had successfully duplicated two Baby Nambu pistols in his garage, from a captured Nambu that he acquired from a returning US Marine, at the close of World War II. The 1902 version of this pistol is known by collectors as “The Grand Papa Nambu”. Acceptance of a bidder card or a bidder number constitutes acceptance of the following terms and conditions. I imagine the pistol would safely function even without the locking lug installed. 7mm Nambu is probably not a good thing to have in your innards. Juniorloaf - You are very fortunate to find all the correct pieces for your G date Luger, congradulations. The source² of German Wikipedia agrees with her; numbers are 55 grains @ 1050 fps for ME of 135 ft•lbf. Journal-Verlag Schwend, Schwäbisch Hall 1998, ISBN 3-936632-10-3. http://papkin1.livejournal.com/106077.html You and English Wikipedia’s source¹ give .25 ACP class ballistics, but Teri at Nambuworld says “Ballistically the 7mm Nambu (left) is comparable to the .32ACP” (http://www.nambuworld.com/originalcollectibleammo.htm). Most Type 26 revolvers were produced from 1894 to 1925; Grandpa Nambus were produced from 1903 to 1906; Papa Nambus from 1906 to 1923 (Tokyo Arsenal) or 1909 to 1928 (TGE); Baby Nambus from 1903 to 1923 (Tokyo Arsenal), or 1923 to 1929 (TGE). If you believe Ezell and/or Smith, the 7mm was about equal to the “warmer” factory loadings of the 7.65 x 17mm Browning (.32 ACP). It was chambered for the 7mm Nambu cartridge (roughly on par with .25ACP). In February, I found this Nambu. That would most certainly penetrate a dinner table…. Rust blue finish with checkered walnut grips and grip safety. The purchaser assumes full responsibility thereof and if requested will sign a confirmation of the purchase. Your email address will not be published. Early serial number 1120, manufactured by Tokyo Artillery Arsenal about 1907. UNDERSTANDING THE TERMS & CONDITIONS OF SALE. As I recall they were a Papa and a baby and as I recall they were consecutively serial numbered. SOLD FOR: $4,011. All matched serial numbers with the exception of the magazine. Ezell(Handguns of the World) credits the 7 x 19.7mm Nambu with a 56 grain bullet at 1100 F/S for 148 FPE. With the pistol in hand, I ordered a set (two) of recoil. The gun is also specifically discussed in the text of the book, at page 85: "Baby serial … I has idea. + buyer's premium + applicable fees & taxes. It is complete with 10 rounds of original WWII Japanese 7mm Nambu ammo. What is the length of this pistol from the back of the cocking knob to muzzle? Anyone have a reliable starting load for the 7mm Baby Nambu round? Kijirõ Nambu lived until 1949 and was responsible for a variety of Japanese firearms designs. For other example see Roth-Sauer automatic pistol: Well, the old reliable Ruger Standard Auto in .22LR closely follows the Nambu in layout. There is 14 original cartridges in the belt loops in the holster outside pocket. The bolt, frame, inside both grip panels and the firing pin are all numbers matching! If “Baby” Nambu first prototype is later than day when FN Browning M1900 entered market following hypothesis might be true:

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