I took some time to answer you because I thought you asked a good question. I suppose shiiiiiiittttt!!!!!! Masakatsu Agatsu. I believe it has much to do with distinguishing Japanese karate from Okinawian karate. It is not rigidly locked into 19th century usage, and certainly not locked into 19th century Okinawan usage. We never said oss when entering our Chito Ryu dojo. … Press J to jump to the feed. Rgds I find it is never that easy. FS1. Hi, another argument on the inappropriate use of the word osu: BTW, thanks. En otras palabras, lo utilizamos para estimular al estudiante. If there is a more respectful greeting/courtesy I could say to him, could someone share it? When I went to Japan last year, I also noticed that it is sometimes being used by the japanese as well, but usually by the younger, while the more experienced karate-ka's mostly do "hai". This has nothing to do with slang, and has the military undertone (and background). You … 300/100/50. :-) Thanfully he pointed this out a few matches in, found out the story, proverbially laughed his ass off which I'm told is unusual for an older Japanese gentleman so I'm guessing my classmate had an uber-polite upbringing or the TO had spent most of his life in Australia where all this took place and I spent the rest of the tournament being my normal self as a Kyokushin student. Since I am new I am of course of lowest rank. ichi, ni, san ... - counting the steps of a technique p.s. Those of you who have been around long enough could remember that he came from the US and was one of "founders" of karate in Sweden in the 70s.? because of a mma tv-series aired in brazil. His stated reasoning at the time was that the 11-1 Crimson Tide had failed to reach its conference’s title game while the 11-2 Buckeyes won theirs. (We basically only use it here upon bowing at the start and end of class, as a respectful acknowledgement of willingness. I don’t think it’s right that Texas A&M, that Oklahoma, that Florida, that Cincinnati got punished because they played more games.”, Analysis | There’s no clear-cut Heisman winner, so Trevor Lawrence should get it for lifetime achievement. The non-martial way to say "yes", "understood" would be "hai". I absolutely always learn something great here! As a native Japanese speaker, I never use it. •Say “hai!”… The Kyokushin guy visited Carlosinho's academy in LA a few years later and was happy to see it was used as standard practice there and, it turns out, at many, many other BJJ schools worldwide. Like anything understanding the origin is important but so is recognising the change and adaptation. The best clarification of the put-down inherent in the term is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjJQBjWYDTs Why hesitate? Thanks Jesse! This is what we have been tought in Italy by our Japanese masters. Love this article Jesse-san! I tend to reply accordingly. Karate is (for me) is not how I compare to other's skill or technique but, how a stack up against myself 1 year ago. Cheers mate. My bet is that Funakoshi probably never used it but when his system spread to Japan, that's when the "Oss" word spread also. I believe that "reiho" - respect and good manners - is absolutely fundamental, perhaps the single most important principle of budo. I'm from Germany so I used OSS as this is the common spelling here (and it's pronounced more like Ous as you mentioned somewhere else). :). Jesse-san, great article. It really didn't bother me....I just had to switch over because we use Osu in our school. My last Okinawa Sensei told me with his eyes not to say anymore. During the build up of WWII many of those officers trained in various arts such as Judo, Shotokan, etc. This is a very egotistical post. His explanation was akin to US Navy officers moving through a crowded below deck hallway where sailors would place their backs to the wall and allow the Officer by. It’s not something you say at the dinner table. Does anyone know if this is because "oss" is a more recent thing or is it may fading memory that is at fault? And it is "shudder" not "shrudder". It is a reminder to oneself to push through and never give up. It's part of their language, like "OK" or "Alright" is in English. Any ways that is my two cents keep up the good work. (Also because I'm a woman.) "I will stand up and speak up when I witness bullying.". Have great respect for the Japanese language and the correct use of it. On returning after such a long gap, there are a few things that I did not recognize and "Oss" was one of them. Both Suzuki Tatsuo and Shiomitsu Masafumi (both Wado Ryu) specifically asked in seminars that I attended for people to stop saying "Osu". Thank You! I know 100% its meaning. In another, Ossu is never used but I do ... occasionally ... use it to my shihan and he seems to like it, I think for him it harkens back to a time. (Update … These days, especially, when speech patterns come off of television programs and cartoons and are mimicked in masse, the art of modulating one's speech has become a lost art in the US, Japan and everywhere else. Students: "hai!" Keep up the good job! (if yo haven't seen it, watch it). Senseis use it ONLY for greeting students at the beginning and end of the class. That is as often in the interests of utility as it is for increased group cohesion and identity. Here is each Big 12 program’s top commit and his national ranking. Arriving at the gym in the morning before training, we always greeted each other with Ohayou Goazaimasu, or Oss. Upon entering the dojo we often will use a customary greeting such as Konban wa! And to reply to the sensei "Hai sensesi". Mas Oyama was a course man or rough around the edges type. 2. Again I would like to reiterate that I did thoroughly enjoy this read and hope to find more stuff from you. Nice post except the point of not using it to Japanese, of higher rank, etc.. I have little time for cultural elitism or for offense that is taken when clearly not given. Now that I'm in Isshin Ryu, I'm having to learn how to drop it and start using "hai." I migrated in 1983 to Okinawan Shorin-ryu, Shido Kan, with my current Sensei, Seikichi Iha,10th Dan, who is Okinawan. Ohio State was in the all-important top four in every release of the CFP selection committee’s rankings this season, but the program’s relatively small body of work sparked a debate on the worthiness of its résumé. Personally we use a variety of phrases for different things. Things change and evolve. The host of the show began every single episode by saying oss. It also slips out of off my mouth in public places because I use it so much in training. Each ryu/school is different but Kyokushin and all the branch out schools are generally like this! I trained Syu Yu Kai karate as a youngster and we were encouraged to ‘OSSSSS’ all over the place, using it as a utility word. Matt. Annoyance to some? It is only used in those timeframes and is frowned upon in the dojo normally. I'm just basically explaining that maybe the reason for the proliferation of Osu isn't just a Western thing. Actually we say it when bowing at the beginning and at the end, or when Sensei instruct or comment on something. Good article. I heard a Sensei saying Hai Oss. After sensei tells us something 1. Don't shout the O sound or exaggerate the u sound. On the other hand when being corrected or instructed, especially in martial arts, ossu is appropriate, unless you are at a dojo where nobody ever says it, ever, and even then it is probably fine. In Kyokushin, it symbolizes the fighting spirit, respect and comprehension of requests. Other times a student may say "arigato" if they ask a question and it is answered or they ask permission to do something. With the exception of the word "sensei" which out of respect is still used to address, well, the sensei. Here in Austria, not only Karate Dojos uses the Phrase, even BJJ and traditional Jiu Jitsu Dojos uses the word to confirm the masters advice for example.... "In 9 times out of 10, there are two very good options: Dan Taylor a lot of karateka even coaches who never explain this, they will only answer follow the course, mentioned osh! I will use it when I great my fellow karateka, and they greet me the same way. Jay it certainly can be used as a greeting, as well as an affirmation, among those in that clique. before everyone chimes in Osu! THE RANKING SYSTEM . I agree and tend to use hai as a response (never as a kiai). One of the reasons that I use Osu in my classes, is that we are connected to a high school and the majority of my students are 14 - 18 years old. Domo Arigato gozaimasu Jesse San, Hah! Maybe this was helpfull? And terms like, "run like a girl" or you "hit like a girl." That being said, it is still correct, while "osu" is not (as far as I know.)

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